tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post6512221679799737213..comments2023-11-16T05:28:03.237-05:00Comments on Agile UI: I finally understand Steve Job's argument against FlashRob McKeownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931278610941549167noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-32590338708181311182010-05-24T07:06:56.863-04:002010-05-24T07:06:56.863-04:00Great post/commentary! I just hope Adobe survives ...Great post/commentary! I just hope Adobe survives at this point - the "people will follow me [Jobs]" factor is frighteningly real.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06837802616720263527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-45274775693790949022010-04-29T23:33:35.948-04:002010-04-29T23:33:35.948-04:00Here is the problem with your argument and many ot...Here is the problem with your argument and many other anti-Flash arguments. You seem to try to point out all these issues with Flash but don't recognize that those issues are not Flash specific. <br /><br />All websites/applications can suffer from that same problem. Most Ajax/HTML apps were designed for computer screens and laptops too. They won't magically re-layout themselves because they are not Flash. They are not optimized for the screen size of a phone either. The fact that they are Flash doesn't make any difference. <br /><br />The point though is that, if you have chosen to build a website or application in Flash, then you should have the opportunity to create a mobile-optimized version of the same site in the same technology. Being able to reuse some assets, libraries, code, etc. would greatly reduce the cost of making that mobile version. Without Flash, you would have to recreate everything in Javascript, CSS and HTML 5 creating a maintenanceRob McKeownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03931278610941549167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-46158075343107507312010-04-29T22:00:00.150-04:002010-04-29T22:00:00.150-04:00I understand your points. But Adobe is not really ...I understand your points. But Adobe is not really telling the whole truth either is it? We are led to believe that mobile phones running Flash will offer the ENTIRE web.<br /><br />This is just not the case. Flash online apps have been developed for computer screens / laptops. When scaled down to a mobile phone screen size, they will largely be unusable (small btns, copy, ...). Zoom in and only a portion of the interface will be viewable at a time. So, normal web users won't bother.<br /><br />Tablet PCs because of their resolutions will be a different story. But for phones, that's just not the case.<br /><br />Sure you can develop your Flash app for the mobile phone. This will work great. But forget about the entire Web!<br /><br />What worries me that Flash developers fell for the argument without even questioning it. We have been developing Flash Lite apps since '05. This jumped out right away. I wonder how credible the Flash community has become. I certainly blame those worthless platform evangelist for spread those misconceptions.<br /><br />In the end, they make us, Flash developers, lose money and opportunities. And yes, we will learn to program for the iDevices because our clients want them.Charlienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-11779938755083175062010-04-29T21:08:51.894-04:002010-04-29T21:08:51.894-04:00I think Steve is feeling the heat - namely having ...I think Steve is feeling the heat - namely having to answer to customers who are expecting a full Web experience and having to settle for a neutered version.<br /><br />This is more about Apple vs. Google than Apple vs. Adobe. He's sure not liking the support Google is showing for Flash and that this may end up backfiring on Apple, strategy-wise. It's really ironic - full Flash support is actually a key differentiator for Apple's competition!!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17110717368117540025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-75790923591771393432010-04-29T20:00:44.643-04:002010-04-29T20:00:44.643-04:00Smartie Stevie many years ago:
"What? Micro...Smartie Stevie many years ago:<br /> <br />"What? Microsoft? Screw Microsoft! The Mac is the computer of the future. We don't need to cooperate with Windows!"<br /><br />Smartie Stevie just a few years later:<br /><br />"Guess what, folks: we are glad to a announce a brand new partnership with Microsoft and also.. surprise! Internet Explorer as a the default browser in the Mac! Yay! Isn't that just great?!"<br /><br />Nothing new over the sun. Moving on...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15083604104513050669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5779786362928830721.post-16436692739610812782010-04-29T17:43:27.163-04:002010-04-29T17:43:27.163-04:00All right, i got scared by title of your post, but...All right, i got scared by title of your post, but the rest of it cleared everything up for me :)<br /><br />I just can't get how Mr. Jobs could say something like the word 'open' about his technologies.. it's so sad that (some) people really believe that Apple is the right choice..<br /><br />And i think you are one of a few people who realizes that HTML5 is far from being useful for applications and games, and that flash is and will be necessary for years to come.<br /><br />I would say that this Apple's attitude will lead them to their end, but i see, Apple has pleiades of blind fans who are more than willing to buy every stupid device that has a half eaten fruit on it.praksanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190802280158642752noreply@blogger.com